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YOUTH WEEKEND DEER WHACKING???
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 28, 2006 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John Elmer/Kevin, I used to have my name attached to my posts, but my wife asked me to change it. She thinks I may be a bit too controversial and opinionated! You think?! Laughing

What is wrong with that woman?
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK...for you guys that don't know; as it relates to names....bknoll= Brad Knoll. I've met a couple of you but not everyone....just something to look forward to for future island trips!

And Conis.....we could start a long thread of things that Cody has learned.
I'll start and everyone feel free to add.

Cody has learned:

#1: Deer hunting is easy. Throw out some bait; shoot a buck.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jeff I think you should be able to speek your mind. You do it well. Why do we have to hide behind a different name. Besides every one knows you now.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 8:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell Cody it works better if you ride around in a car when you spot a buck roll down the window and shoot him. Take a picture with the deer and leave him lay for someone else.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 6:51 pm    Post subject: "No Names" Reply with quote

Piper, you express yourself perfectly. I have learned to respect posters in this forum for their candidness. I don't agree with a lot their bull but I respect 'em. Do you think some may consider my "advanced thinking" as bull? mmmmmmm
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 29, 2006 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Advanced thinking? What a concept. Can I be advanced, too? The more you know, the dumber you get.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BOW SEASON STARTED ARE THE BUCK IN BREEDING SEASON NOW? ITS ONLY ONE WEEK AFTER YOUTH HUNT SO THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE AGAINST YOUTH HUNT FOR THE REASON BEING IT'S TO EARLY IN THE SEASON YOU MUST FEEL THE SAME WAY ABOUT BOW SEASON.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The rut has begun, the bucks are terrotorial and wary and scattering. Summer is over. Bow hunting, early season, is not easy. Shooting a buck with a rifle in the summer is. Answer your question?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 02, 2006 9:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pulled out of the driveway today and saw a 4 & spike locking em up. I was about 20 feet away in the SUV and they didn't care less. Watched them for about 20 min. A couple of other cars drove up and watched with me. They weren't really going at it hard but every now and then , Wham.
As I was leaving I noticed a doe standing off to the side. She looked kinda bored. If she would have had a watch on I'm sure she would have been looking at it.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what Conis is trying to say is during the junior hunt all the bucks are still hanging together and still standing in your backyard in the middle of the day. Now by the start of bow season you dont see them anymore.
Which in turn gives them a fair chance to go around and spread thier seeds. When you shoot them before the rut....w/rifle its abit unfair to the deer, the reproduction cycle, and to us hunters in the long run. I have no problem w/father and son hunting, its a good start for a young man. Its a great thing for dad also. (bonding) Maybe the DNR needs to take a better look at the juinor hunt and move it to like the 3rd week in October.
Bow hunters have a very long season, and it wouldnt hurt anything.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 03, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now thats a reasonable solution, I think. Move the junior weekend ahead a month. The bow hunters do have along season. They don't own the woods. They can share or hunt around it. Hunt anyway, not hunt that weekend whatever.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 05, 2006 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree that sounds reasonable.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 2:08 pm    Post subject: Deer Reply with quote

I remember my first and only hunt ...

It was out of Kalkaska .... somewhere ...

My Dad put me on a stump and left .... before leaving he told me he would be back just before dark .... I bet he was hiding behind a tree close by !!!

When this small buck came I fired a shot and boy was I scared !!

( I do not know why .. I was taught all there was to know about Rifles and was around them all my life .. )
Well anyway ... I shot the deer and proud of it .. I was able to tag it with my tag ... I was 15 years old ...
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bet you recall that scene just as vividly as if it happened yesterday!

I remember my first buck, every detail.... like an old 8mm move played 1000 times!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piper: I read your earlier post. I know I am quite a few years older than you, but I dreamed for years about getting a Crossman Powermaster 760 pump-powered pellet/bb gun. Like the kid in A Christmas Story, I imagined pumping that thing up til it was full of power and . . . well I don't remember what or who I planned to shoot. I never did get one and had to make do with a Daisy that held 5 million bbs but had no power; you know, the kind you had to point up in the air if you wanted it to go more than 50 feet. Might have been a good thing. We lived in a Chicago suburb and the only place to shoot it was down in our crawl space or, with supervision, in the back yard. I also remember my brother getting a bb gun and shooting a little bird. It was kind of like that old Andy Griffith episode where Opie kills a baby bird with his slingshot. My brother tried to revive that bird and we both felt terrible--learned a lesson, that's for sure.

Anyway, I actually found an old Powermaster 760 at a garage sale and bought it for a few bucks just to have one--even though it didn't work. Funny how certain things just grab onto you when you're a kid and you never forget.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 4:37 pm    Post subject: HUNT Reply with quote

CONIS YOU ARE SO RIGHT .... IT WAS LIKE IT WAS YESTERDAY ..

MY DAD WAS A TRAPER TOO SO I REMEMBER WATCHING HIM KNOCK FOX IN THE TRAP TO KILL THEM ..

ALSO I REMEMBER COMING HOME FROM SCHOOL AND THERE WAS MY MOM SKINNING OUT A MINK .IN OUR KIT. !!. I PUT MY HANDS ON THAT BEAUTIFUL FUR .... I WILL NEVER FORGET HOW SOFT AND BEAUTIFUL IT WAS ....
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brief:

I had a 760 crossman as a kid ang ruined it by pouring oil in it to make higher compression (more powerful).

I trapped muskrats as a kid, Good $$$ but too brutal. gave it up... Too many alive in the traps, suffering. Not for me.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 06, 2006 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I used to pump my 760 up, waaaaaaayyyyyy beyond the recommended number of pumps. That thing would shoot through a steel 55 gallon drum! My dad had to replace O-rings a couple of times....and then finally, one day the brass piston cracked inside! My dad took the gun apart and said we'd order a new one, but alas, it never happened. Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: hunt Reply with quote

Conis ...

I was raised killing deer or moose for the freezer ..to have meat for the winter ...

The trapping was to sell for money ..

I know of some people that would not let their children watch cleaning fish ...
that is a little too much ..

I understand though how you feel ....

I love moose .they are neat animals ..... and my mom has said in her older years ..she was a bit sad to shoot them ... but moose is meat ...for the tummy ...

I collect moose things .... they are all over my house ..

its a state of mind ... loving them but yet shooting them and eating them ...
I am so glad I was raised to understand that ........
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 7:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I truly understand that meat doesn't come from nice little packages at the grocery. Cleaning a fish or gutting a deer doen't bother me an iota. I always butcher my own deer... Less wasted meat.

Trapping serves a purpose as a managemnt tool, which I don't personally enjoy. I have no ethical problems with trapping, whatsoever.

This isn't an arguement at all. A personal sentiment. It bothers me to see an animal suffer... Which would include a poor shot. I always feel that sting of remorse when an animal makes the transition from "animal" to "meat".

Venison in the freezer got us through some pretty lean years. As long as I can hunt, there will always be venison in the freezer.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen Conis! By the way...........where exactly did you take that "Boblo Bucks" picture?!!!!!!! Laughing

(edit by conis) ...on the island in Lake Thompson...
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 07, 2006 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't remember where I heard this but I thought it was funny...

If God didn't want us to eat animals, he wouldn't have made them out of meat. Mr. Green
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