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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 1:04 pm    Post subject: Deer Reply with quote

Saw an 8 point going off the island Saturday, Nov. 1, 2008. Shot out past twin Lakes somewhere.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw nothing but doe while bow-hunting a couple of weekends ago. I missed one. (Killed the crap out a beech sapling about 6 feet in front of the deer though.) Crying or Very sad

I did see two nice bucks near the airport, as I was driving to the ferry to leave though. (An eight and a six)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been seeing less and less of them. Big ones are gonna really get scarce.
Seems to be more deer on the East end low cedar swamps. Lots of hunters on the rock this weekend. I think were probably gonna have a record hunting crowd this year. Daisy and I have all our feed ready for the winter.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:35 pm    Post subject: we Reply with quote

My Hubby got some really neat video of Deer out on Sea Gull Island ..this summer .. ( the shore where the log cabin sits across from Sea Gull Island was once owned by my Father-in-law Frank W. Richardson) so it still feels like home to me there ...

He got video of them going in the water to get back to shore .. neat..

I remember in my life time there was a sand bar going out to that island.
this was the year 1965 .... then later the water came way back up ..

it seems to me when I seen it this summer its not as low as 1965 but alot lower then when I moved off the island in 1976 ..

The Deer looked very healthy ..I did see one skinny one and was told it was an old deer ..

I remember seeing them in herds down to the bar is one place ...
I was a kid then and My Grandmother would have plenty of guests during the summer and we always took them out at night for a ride to see the deer ....
It never was IF we were going to see them we Knew we would ..

3Putt ..... So the Deer Herd is way down ??
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1965 wooooow your a lot older than I am. I was just born that year. How the heck old are you anyways? Heck Sparty wasn't even though of yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 7:48 pm    Post subject: T Reply with quote

Tony ..

You need to look at it this way .. " you are catching up to me pretty fast "
Isn't it amazing how time flies ???
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya Connie, he makes fun of our ages, but ask him who has already had a hip replacement!!! It sure wasn't me or you, but we are considered the old fogies. HA!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And yes I do remember when the water was this low and lower too. We used to watch the deer out on the reef in front of the windmill house. There were always deer in Hoffman's orchard and the orchard by the bar.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hip replacement? Geez, I just had another hair turn grey
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:35 pm    Post subject: l Reply with quote

Clover .. yes always plenty of Deer at Hoffmans place and the bar...

Hip replacement and another grey hair ... Alan and Tony ...

This is when the fun begins !! Exclamation Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not how old the dog is, it is how hard he played. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So theegirl and BBIgirl when you 2 where born did you see cypress trees and Mountains etc? I know your not older than dirt but just wondering if you are older than the hills or just older than the cypress trees.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: well Reply with quote

Well BBIB I think you played harder then I with all your medicial problems with the hip surgery and all..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was just wondering if anyone else was scarred by Connie Twigg when they where young? Young, hell what am I talking about I'm still afraid of her. I think Aunt Audry and Connie sent me running for home a few times. I saw her in a rant one time with Lonnie, I think I ran past our house. She ran out the door with a broom just a swinging and Lonnie laughing. Heck I used to jump on the slide at the school to get Dondi to come out to play. I'm surprised that she didn't come over and knock me off the slide with that broom of her's because I was making all that noise.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:57 pm    Post subject: tony Reply with quote

Hey Tony .. you got it !! ha ha That is so funny !!

Mom had to be 2 parents cause Dad died and she had to stay on top of us kids .. mom was a wonderful mom ...but you are right !! ha ha she left a impression on you huh ??? Well she never chased me with a broom and that was rare what you seen ......

Whats so neat about this is all of you love her dearly ..
she got respect !! for sure !!

She tells this story alot about my son John-John .. she said "he never talked back to me, ever" WEll that tells the story ..
I wish more folks now days were more like mom ..!
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Miss Daisy and I feed the deer all winter. We have over 50 at a time. I think the heard is about the same as last year Theeislandgirl.
We seem to see alot early fall and then they all dissappear right before hunting season Laughing Then when things quiet down they all come back out. Feeding has its ups and downs. You see all the deer. The small ones who dont get much because the larger ones wont let them eat, the injured ones who seem to come in after the foods been ate by the healthy ones, all the fawns by themselves because moms been shot or seperated somehow. We been feeding a 3 legged buck that had been shot 2 seasons ago. He looks horrible when he walks but somehow is makeing it . We spread the food out over the entire front and back yard trying to make sure they all get alittle. A 5 gallon bucket of corn is gone in minutes. We try to pic and save apples in the garage. Daisy grew over 50 nice pumpkins this year in the garden. We also get the hunters on our road to donate every year to help feed the heard. It seems that no matter what we never have enough. Watching a doe and her 2 babys eat in the middle of winter is so neat. It never gets boreing.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:04 pm    Post subject: t Reply with quote

3 putt

thanks for your in detail story about the deer ..

You see if from all sides .. the good and sad ..
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your very welcome.. We cant wait to start feeding them. We try to hold off till the new year, but never seem to make it till then.. When they stand there and look in the front window with sad hungry eyes we cave in.. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

3 putt and daisy.

Kudos to you both for your efforts. I am sure it makes a difference in how many deer the island can support through the winter. This is supposed to be like last winter with cold /snow above average. At least according to the farmers almanac.

I also understand how much it must cost you. Price of hay and corn has become phenominal Around here, corn has jumped to like $8.00/50 lbs and it was $2.50/50 2-3 years ago.

I am staying home to hunt this year... but if you are accepting contributions, I would like to make one. I enjoy watching all the deer along Rocky road, as much as you guys.

You might be aware that since they found a deer with chronic wasting disease in Kent County (in a deer farm compound), and as a result. the DNR has banned all baiting and feeding in the Lower peninsula... which will make it hard on the deer in non-ag areas like Northern Lower Peninsula where many feed the deer just like you guys. At least you aren't in the LP and if this were to become an issue, the BBI deer herd will remain isolated and safe.

I brough my spin cast corn feeder home and intend to set it up where it can't be seen from the road. Feed them anyway and take my chances.

When the deer are eating beets or carrots, they stand the highest chance of passing disease to one another. Not so with corn.

Look for a subsidy check in the mail. Deer feeding must be like a socialist free-handout thing?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 9:30 am    Post subject: Deer Park Reply with quote

Hi. this is Mikewhite. I'm at my daughter's place Pharmer Lana's.

There is a history about the deer on BBI. The original people that started the Pointe of Pins Resort had connections with Lansing. They got a law passed making the island a deer park. They imported deer to the island. There was no hunting while it was a deer park. The law expired after a number of years. This was back around the 1880's and 90's. The Cheboygan newspaper razzed the islanders about having to put up a fence around the island to keep their inmates, the deer, from escaping.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's interesting about the deer park Mike. I hadn't heard that. I have heard though that we can also thank Lansing for the black squirrels on the Island. Something about a MSU grad student research project involving introducing them into an environment where they had not previously been part of the ecosystem. Do you know anything about that?
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 09, 2008 8:40 pm    Post subject: Squirrels Reply with quote

Mike at Lana's
The black squirrels were introduced and you couldn't hunt them (legally) for a few years. I recall that just prior to their introduction that the red squirrel population was out of sight, but after the blacks were established, the reds were fewer in numbers. I always wondered if that was part of the reason for introducing them to BBI.

Another intoduced species that many are not aware of is the roughed grouse (pats). I believe it was in the late 40's or early 50's when that happened. Rough grouse can't fly the four or five miles to get to the island. This also means that any that are on the island now are decendents of the original ones and came from nowhere else.

The turkeys on the island now were from a second introduction. The first time around, quite a few years back, it failed. The first ones were raised by humans and acted more like chickens, too tame.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 12, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Conis,
Every dime is used for the deer. The hunters are pouring in as I speak. As far as the deer feed piles Lana I dont think theres more deer on the private land than on the state land. The mass piles will draw them in only while thier eating and then back to the low cedar swamps which are mostly on the state land. I hear all the big ones are taken down by baseline and Tower rd. I heard some lucky guy on Rocky road got the biggest one last year. Wink
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