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John Elmer Engel
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: other stuff Reply with quote

Hey, Squeaky, no problem withthe Amish comment. I should not have used the term "porn".

What I was referring to in my last post was uncle steve's website. This one:

http://www2.tech.purdue.edu/cg/Courses/cgt411/covey/48_laws_of_power.htm

It is an interesting list. Something all leadership/power people probably read.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:31 pm    Post subject: 48 Reply with quote

this must be the one that you follow with your archetectural style, ay Steve?

Law 37

Create Compelling Spectacles

Striking imagery and grand symbolic gestures create the aura of power – everyone responds to them. Stage spectacles for those around you, then full of arresting visuals and radiant symbols that heighten your presence. Dazzled by appearances, no one will notice what you are really doing
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:36 am    Post subject: Detroit Reply with quote

Had to post this about Detroit:




December 22, 2009
Detroit Public Schools: Dumbest Ever?
Posted by Karen De Coster on December 22, 2009 10:44 PM
From the Detroit Free Press:

Detroit Public Schools students posted the worst math results ever recorded in the 40-year history of a prestigious nationwide test, according to scores released today.

Sixty-nine percent of fourth-graders and 77 percent of eighth-graders scored below basic skill levels in math on the National Assessment of Educational Progress, a standardized test that serves as a nationwide yardstick in measuring student learning.

First, I can’t help but note that the standardized public school test is referred to as “prestigious.” And that means…?


DPS Emergency Financial Manager Robert Bobb made a comment that unless this problem is fixed, the city of Detroit “has no future.” Bobb has declared an “academic emergency” for Detroit. The blame, however, is placed squarely on “past leadership,” along with school principals and a failing curriculum. In fact, Bobb claims that “action plans” have been repeatedly turned down in the past, causing the need to bring him on as an “emergency financial manager.” Surely these ‘actions plans’ would have saved the day! Things are so bad that the Detroit Public School administration is trying to force teachers to loan them $10,000 each, via payroll deduction, so DPS can make good on its payroll.

It’s called the Termination Incentive Plan and it may be one of the toughest sells for union membership. Teachers would agree to a $250 deduction from their biweekly paychecks starting in January. The deductions come from 40 paychecks. Teachers would get the $10,000 back — with no interest — once they leave.

The need for an emergency financial manager for the city of Detroit is due to decades of corrupt Marxist politics taking over and running – and destroying – the city of Detroit for the purpose of power, equality, and redress for blacks. Rampant fraud has been perpetuated by city’s power brokers for decades.

And that this city is the most racially divided city in the nation is no secret. Here’s a stark reminder, from my youth, of Detroit’s divide – the famous 24-foot tall fist that occupies a very busy intersection in downtown Detroit, making a very bold statement from the day it was unveiled in 1987.



And yes, native Detroiters such as myself understand the real significance of this sculpture, and it sure as heck is not to honor Joe Louis. The 1970s and 1980s started an era that signaled the beginning of end for Detroit. Anyone who valued community and peace – and their future – fled the city without ever looking back. I lasted until 1992.

Yet Robert Bobb makes an incredible statement about Detroiters who cannot read, write, and perform basic math: “The real fault lies squarely with leadership,” he said. “It’s not the kids’ fault. There’s nothing wrong with these kids’ minds.”

Once again, the problem is those guys (former leadership), and the solution is us guys (current leadership). It’s always us (good) guys versus them other (bad) guys. New political schemes are always guaranteed to be better than past politics. We just never seem to have the “right” leaders in place.

The last census in 2000 revealed that Detroit lost 20% of its population between 1980 and 2000. Statistics typically show that over 70% of Detroit children are born to single mothers, half of Detroit adults are functionally illiterate, less than 30% of DPS students graduate from high school, and unemployment currently stands at 28% in the city. The majority of these kids are raised by gangbangers to be gangbangers. Strutting around the streets and local malls in their baggy pants (that sag to their knees) and shirts, wearing their sideways and upside down visors, and color-coded clothes, they couldn’t care less about school, reading, writing, or math. And the ones who do care are ostracized. When is this supposed “leadership” going to wake up to the reality?

Yet if the scale of scoring is 0-500 on these tests, and the national average for a given subject is 239 for fourth graders or 282 for eight graders, why pick on just Detroit? Isn’t this an indication that, on a national level, the public schools are churning out illiteracy at a record rate overall? From this article on the 2009 NEAP result in mathematics:

After two decades of steady progress, fourth-grade math achievement is stagnating nationwide. Just 39 percent of U.S. students scored at the Proficient level. Among low-income students, the proficiency rate is 22 percent, and for Latino (21 percent) and African-American (15 percent) students, the results are even more troubling.

So Detroit, in spite of its very significant (and extraordinary) problems, has students who have received an “F” that is only slightly worse than the “F” of the rest of the nation’s public school drones – am I correct? But as I flip through the NEAP testing results and summaries, all I see are consistent declarations of “improvement,” with no mention of the very hard facts that point to the perennial failure of the federal child prison system that keeps cranking out illiteracy at an extraordinary rate.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 1:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lots of good points made by a good writer.

Running a public school in Detroit is approximately like running a crochet seminar during a prison riot. Survival is the only passing grade the students will care about. What they are supposed to be learning in school has absolutely nothing to do with the life they know.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 5:34 pm    Post subject: Detroit Reply with quote

Exactly, Dan. And that is why these failing inner city gangbangers make great soldiers...they know that when they get to Afghanistan, survival is number one. Spreading good will, a concept never mentioned in their schools, never enters their minds.

And to think, with such decay in Detroit, Obama has the audacity to send 35,000 more troops to that desolate, rocky wasteland...to make us safer!!! I am laughing. Go walk in downtown detroit on a nice, dark evening...I bet it might be safer in Afghanistan.

I love facts. "On the morning of December 19 the U.S. Senate met in a rare Saturday morning session to approve a $636.3 billion military budget for next year. The vote was 88–10, as the earlier vote by the House of Representatives on December 16 was 395–34."

And these bastard senators have the audacity to say they are voting against health care because it is the right thing to do. When is it" the right thing to do" and vote against the billions for war???
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 8:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Detroit is not alone, most major cities in this country are suffering from the same cancer. Poor education, gang violence and drug addiction have become epidemic. I believe a lot of it is caused by decades of welfare benefits. We are paying unfit parents to have children and then complain about not being able to control them in the schools and in the streets.

I don't know anything about Detroit but after reading these posts I would bet they are generous with their public assistance, Milwaukee made the same mistake.

Schools aren't the problem, the collapse the family structure is the problem.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 23, 2009 10:27 pm    Post subject: Detroit Reply with quote

No question the "welfare" state creates a bigger "welfare" state. Our government has no problem taking peoples hard earned money (Its called Theft) and giving it to someone else. I do not care what good intentions they have. It does not promote freedom...it promotes dependence.

Yes there is a lot of that in Detroit. But losing the Auto Industry was a kick in the Kaahoonies, big time.

When I hear a religious, "conservative" say we spend too much on "war", then I will know that person is actually looking at our government and not at a politician or party. Our country is falling apart because the Military/industrial/congressional complex runs the show. They want servants, not free men and women that might start to revolt against the illigal wars, taxes, and out of control spending of our legislators.
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