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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 8:51 pm    Post subject: ICE BRIDGE? Reply with quote

Howdy!
My wife and I are heading up to the UP for a week long sled trip the first week of Feb. Hoping ice bridge has formed so we can ride Boblo on our way back to Hudsonville. Any good news?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad called Curt last week who said "not yet" on the ice bridge situation.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a chance that they make check it out this weekend, however, I flew over it today and could see some open water spots, even way up by the bridge, (and not where a freighter last went either). So everyone just wait a bit until it has been check thoroughly and the tree line has been put in. I know a couple of islanders have crossed, but I wouldn't recommend it yet. I don't know what their hurry was, but in my opinion, it hasn't been long enough to have set in good yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: always Reply with quote

I was wondering about the ice bridge ...

Glad it is forming and hope for a good ice crossing this year ....

I remember the excitment of it all when the trees went in !! and the trail then was made .....
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 9:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please keep me posted on the Ice Bridge situation.

We (inclusive of several snomo buds) are talking up the possibility of an "expedition" departing from Afton(tucky) to Cheb. then to BBI, then to Mackinaw Island, St Ignace and north from there. But talk is cheap and still at logistics/planning stages

I assume getting from BBi to M.I. is safe/doable from Lime Kiln Pt? Any insights would be appreciated.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never, never, never cross the ice from BBI (Lime Kiln Point) to Mackinac Island without a Mackinac Island escort!!! The freighters still navigate between Round Island and Mackinac, and that channel could be open. If any of us want to go to Mackinac, we have to do it the hard way. Cross to Cheboygan, trailer your machines up to St. Ignace, and cross from St. Ignace to Mackinac Island, IF they have their tree line in. Ours isn't in yet, but they are thinking about checking sometime this weekend. So be sure and call someone before you decide to cross!!!! Do not take the ice situation between all the islands and mainlands, for granted!! I can't stress this enough. I won't even assume that things will be ok by the time you want to come up. Check first.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I watched the weather tonight and it doesn't look good for the ice situation for tomorrow. The winds are going to be high out of the NE and that is bad for the ice. We will have to wait and see what happens to it.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aww darn ... Thought they were going to make the trail on my birthday tomorrow .....
I hope the winds stay down and you all can get those trees in very soon .....
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Clovers warnings and thank you, Clover for keeping us updated! I talked to Al last night and he says he and Mike have been watching the bridge closely and intend on putting out more trees on Sunday. Stay tuned for the lastest... Very Happy I know Al is one of the most careful people I know when it comes to that ice.. He's gone thru and won't ever forget it. Shocked With the cost of a round trip flight up to $100 Shocked I bet there are a few people anxious to have the bridge..... Be Safe Everyone!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will only be putting out more trees if this wind hasn't hurt the ice, so we'll see!!!!
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 22, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hear ya Clover... This wind is awesome down here in the trees! I can just imagine in the straits! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:09 am    Post subject: ice Reply with quote

the Coast Guard have a saying that no ice is safe ice!!!! I have been over the last couple years and alway wait till they put the tree line out . Mike&Curt know what they are doing so I would wait till then they do a good job at it. Are they going to have it start at the taxidermy place west of Cheboygan Question
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

After meeting everyone this morning, they have decided to put the tree line out today, and it will cross to the taxidermy place on the Cheboygan side. Make sure you get permission from Burton Taxidermy before you try to park your vehicle there, or to use their access.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 23, 2005 10:10 pm    Post subject: Great !! Reply with quote

Today was the day for the Tree line to go in ..

How did it go ????
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The treeline is in, and they found nothing less than 10 or 12" if ice. But if you decide to come over, be sure to call someone first to make sure everything is ok.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 11:18 pm    Post subject: Great !! Reply with quote

Thats Great !! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 8:42 am    Post subject: safe ice Reply with quote

Thanks for the heads-up on the shipping channel. I wasn't aware that it was kept open all winter. So scratch that hairbrained expedition idea right off the list.

You know what happens when 3-4 guys get sitting around the table on a saturday night, looking at maps with a pencil in one hand and bottle opener in the other? The scary part is that there may be "some" out there just dumb enough to try something like that, unaware.

I went through the ice when I was a kid. It was a chilling experiance. Suffice it to say that going through the ice in the straits would be a one shot deal/ one way ticket. I don't like surprises. I am a "boyscout".

Still may run out to BBI from Cheb and do the sled tour. BUT this will be in Feb when the ice bridge is absolutely safe, well established and without question.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! Always check first before going over! When we lived there, I was going to high school in Cheboygan. On the weekends, I would go back to the island. I would have to fly over while the ice was making, which was always my favorite part. Kevin Gibbons would fly me over and if it was just me and him, he'd take me all over the island and Mackinac. It was great fun. (Still want to get my pilot's license). Well, when the ice was good and the tree line was in, that was my weekend mode of transport....which was also great fun. I'll always remember the time spent at bologna point. Is it even still called that? Standing in the middle of all that ice and space. One could easily feel like the only one on earth. I'll never forget the sound of the wind out there when the machines were off. (only on nice days do we turn the machines off) Well, there was this one time, I was getting out of school for spring break. Spring usually is later coming on the straits, so the ice was still in and it was still in good shape. Hal came over and got me and we headed out. We could see open water on the way, but it was well enough out that it wasn't any danger to us. It was a nice day and we didn't have any problems. Well, that very night, a strong northeasterly wind came in. At that time, we were living in the white house that the post office used to be in (the one you grew up in Clover Wink Well, you know all the windows in the front. I came down the stairs the next morning and the first thing I saw was not a speck of ice left in the straits AT ALL! I yelled Holy ****!! Hal was on the couch sleeping. He jumped and said what?!?! All I could do was point out the window and say, uhhh, we were just out in the middle of that yesterday! It was amazing to see the power the wind can have. Every bit of ice was gone. So, do not EVER underestimate it and always check before heading out. Anything can happen. Does anyone remember when Sponge was stuck out on that ice floe? I bought him a coffee mug soon after that. It said just go with the floe....he had it on the bar for the longest time. Anyways, that is just one of the many, many stories we always end up telling around the bon fire Smile I can't wait to go over again on the ice. There's nothing like it.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you! What great memories and stories we have.. They still call it bologna point. The best stop on the ice! It is a pretty awesome feeling! Very Happy Should we start a new topic? Your favorite ice crossing story? Cool
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tell the one about Al and Stacy, Susie...thats a good one!
Conis should keep in mind that he may get there but then not be able to get off with the machines. Stuck on that beautiful Island!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:59 am    Post subject: yes Reply with quote

yes !! tell that story again about al and stacy !.. i have heard it before of course but i cannot remember some of the details !! ............
Conis would like to hear that one !!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aaaahhhhh..... could i BE so lucky as to get "stuck" on the island? LOL!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 7:17 pm    Post subject: stuck on BBI? Reply with quote

Hey . you got a story, let'er rip (ontoit).

Flying out there is starting to sound better and better?

I know I could get stuck out there. Oh well. Getting stuck is my strong suite anymore. I suppose the worst thing that could happen (being stuck) is having to come back when the ferry is running and retrieve my sled.

Worse than getting stuck is "the deep 6". IF I come out there on sled, it will be in Feb when the ice is known safe and with some higher probability of a two way trip, and in a convoy or escort or something. And I will call first and check this out before even considering a run.

I have never done this before. But I am not a straits moron and absolutely understand what can and does happen out there, any time of the year.

I was on the island via ferry(thinking 96 or so) when that 30 minute storm came through with the 12' waves that capsized all the boats anchored off the Pines. Brutal! And just 2 days earlier had taken my 21' boat across from Cheb. Good luck, as far as I considered it in retrospect.

The straits has to be the most trecherous unpredicatable water in Michigan, to be respected if not feared. Things can change SO fast.

Rereading Camille's post of the ice bridge there one day and gone the next. NE wind blew the ice out? I too knew someone stuck on an ice floe, for 2 1/2 days in Saginaw Bay. Some scary stuff.

I don't really like "scared" any more.

Maybe I will call Hoffman's or scratch scary for a ferry ride first ice out?
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2005 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Smile .

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the ice needs all of your respect. If you know it and understand how it works, you generally do fine. An East wind will break and crack the ice bridge up, and a West wind will carry it out. Mackinac did put their treeline in before us this year, but be aware that Mackinac's treeline is very unpredictable. They have very very strong currents under theirs. So yes, be sure to contact someone from either St. Ignace or Mackinac to find out the conditions of their treeline before crossing. I've been crossing the ice for many many years and don't have a scary story to tell you. Like Camille, I have seen it in one day, and gone the next, but have never been out there when I shouldn't, and I NEVER NEVER vary from the treeline to make a shorter trip out of it. And that's one thing Sponge did that year! He always took the shortcut. Be smart.....stay on the treeline.
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