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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Coyotes Reply with quote

As I was leaving Sand Bay today, I saw a coyote in the meadow. It was a big one. It had lots of hair on its body but the tail was entirely naked. It actually looked like the tail was frozen stiff. I felt sorry for that coyote.

Is this mange? Maybe that is the reason for not seeing many around this summer.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 22, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Is this mange? Maybe that is the reason for not seeing many around this summer.


All the one I saw last summer looked pretty rough.

Natures way of population control.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 8:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad and I saw a large, healthy looking one last spring, on the West End. It ran across the road in front of my Jeep and dropped the front-half of a spotted fawn in the road. My buddy saw a big one on Bible Rd. in November. Twice, I've found the remains of wild turkey in the woods, nothing left but the feathers, and the grouse (partridge) and rabbit numbers seem to be down, on the West End, for the past couple of years. I know that their populations are cyclical, and of course, there are other predators out there, but it's possible that the coyotes are having an impact.

I don't like to see any animal suffer either Mike, but I hope that the coyote numbers are kept in check, by man, or by nature, for the sake of the turkey, deer, rabbit, grouse, etc..... I suppose that when the food gets scarce, so will they.

Any word on the annual, winter, coyote "harvest" on the island?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 10:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I read an interesting article maybe a year ago. I think I might have posted it (too lazy to search) A brief summary on Coyote populations:

There is a biological term (???) for some species including coyotes: They have the ability to manage their own population (to an extent) by the amount of available food. (adjustment of litter size) It is virtually impossible to hunt them out. Ranchers out west have trapped, shot and poisoned them just to keep them in check. Efforts are temporary at best. They would have to shoot ALL of them to eliminate all of them.

Rabbits and small rodents are the primary food source. Rabbits have huge population cycle swings up and down. When they are going down, the coyote population goes down behind them, naturally. Mangeis another population "management tool" of mom nature.

Of course they are opportunists and will take fawns. They also take care of sick or crippled animals (good).

We have turkeys around here to nuisance proportions. Coyotes too. I can't say I have ever seen a turkey killed by a coyote. Too wary and can fly.

Turkeys really have very few natural preditors. My guess is that an eagle or osprey could nail one without breaking a sweat (faster and large enough). And if they did, they would probably dine on the spot as a turkey is to large to carry in flight? And the coyotes come in and clean up what's left? I am guessing at this but seems possible.

You ever watch a turkey trying to land in a tree? Crash and burn.

I once saw one hit a large ash tree, head on in full flight. Dropped to the ground like a sack of dirt, deader than a doornail. They might be wary but they aren't agile flyers or smart.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My cat is dangerous to turkeys.. Funniest then I ever saw was my cat on the back of a turkey trying to hang on! Laughing Laughing Ride 'em, Bronco! Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Al's Sister wrote:
My cat is dangerous to turkeys.. Funniest then I ever saw was my cat on the back of a turkey trying to hang on! Laughing Laughing Ride 'em, Bronco! Laughing


I'll bet the turkey won... but the joyride was worth it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 23, 2007 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

pOOR TURKEY!!!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Susie that wasn't just before Thanksgiving was it? I just wondering you didn't say.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have been rooting for the cat if it had been before Thanksgiving! LOLOL!
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Coyote Prey? Reply with quote

Anyone know if a Coyote will tackle a Racoon?
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coyotes had mange years ago, very bad, but one year one was shot and was big and really beautiful. The wolves up here in some places get mange, its interesting that most places they don't.( Here in Alaska. )Coyotes will get rid of many aninals and the little deer too. Two coyotes can get a deer down, it was seen one time in lower MI. We are having a cold winter here, better then the wet weather. WE are have lots of snow. People love it, they love to snowmachine and lots of places to go, the parks try to close some places. Hope your winter is good.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The coyote will get a coon or any other game animal if they are hungry. They are most danagerest when in a pack. Hi Connie How you and Lynn doing in the cold winter up there? I hope all is fine with you. Take care
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 12, 2007 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a couple coyotes coming right up around my place at night. Chasing rabbits who are munching on bird feeder stuff on the ground. Got a good look saturday, They keep tripping the motion sensor lights in the drive. They get pretty bold around here... They are going to have "an accident".

My neighbor across the road takes out 1-2 a week. Got a lot of them around here. Pretty soon, the "coon dog club" guys will be having their winter hunts and get them thinned down a little.

Two coyotes can take down a deer, especially when snow is deep and crusted. Deer can't run and break through the crust.
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